Episode 78 – Pastor Jeff Jenkins – 7 Years Later (Part 4)

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Jeff Jenkins was the pastor of Believers Christian Fellowship in Lima, Ohio for almost 33 and a half years. In the conclusion of our interview, we talk about whether what his advice is to those that have left the message and what the proper approach should be to religion and faith based on his experience since leaving the message.

Links
Finding God in the Waves by Mike McHargue
– Our first interview with Pastor Jeff
– Jeff Jenkins discusses the 1963 Arizona Cloud

The following is a transcript of the podcast:

Episode 77 – Pastor Jeff Jenkins – 7 Years Later (Part 3)

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Jeff Jenkins was the pastor of Believers Christian Fellowship in Lima, Ohio for almost 33 and a half years. In part 3 of our interview, we talk about whether he has had any contact with other message ministers since he left the message and how his ministry has developed over the past 7 years.

Links
– Our first interview with Pastor Jeff
– Jeff Jenkins discusses the 1963 Arizona Cloud

The following is a transcript of the podcast:

Episode 76 – Pastor Jeff Jenkins – 7 Years Later (Part 2)

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Jeff Jenkins was the pastor of Believers Christian Fellowship in Lima, Ohio for almost 33 and a half years. In part 2 of our interview, we talk about what has surprised him most since he left the message.

Links
– Our first interview with Pastor Jeff
– Jeff Jenkins discusses the 1963 Arizona Cloud

The following is a transcript of the podcast:

Episode 75 – Pastor Jeff Jenkins – Seven Years Later (Part 1)

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Jeff Jenkins was the pastor of Believers Christian Fellowship in Lima, Ohio for almost 33 and a half years. Rod Bergen and Tim Kraus talk to Jeff about:

– What have been the biggest changes in his thinking since he left the message 7 years ago?
– What has surprised him most since he left the message?
– Has he had any contact with other message ministers since he left? 
– How has his ministry developed since he left the message?
– What is his advice to those that have left the message?
– What is the proper approach to religion and faith based on his experience since leaving the message?

Links
– Our first interview with Pastor Jeff
– Jeff Jenkins discusses the 1963 Arizona Cloud

The following is a transcript of the podcast:

Episode 15 – The 1963 Arizona Cloud with Pastor Jeff Jenkins (Part 3)

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Jeff Jenkins, pastor of Believers Christian Fellowship (BCF) in Lima, Ohio for almost 35 years, discusses the 1963 Arizona Cloud with host, Rod Bergen in part 3 of  their interview.

Some of the questions they discuss include:

  • Have those the criticize our cloud research actually looked at it?
  • What does numerology have to do the cloud?  Is numerology rooted in paganism?
  • Did the cloud move towards Sunset Mountain?
  • Were some of William Branham’s visions fabricated?
  • What is Jesus Christ doing in the world today?
  • The Parable of the Prodigal Son – Are message believers akin to the elder brother?
  • “It’s not the power of your faith but the object of your faith that saves you.”
  • What is biblical modesty?
  • Was William Branham under a Nazarite vow?
  • Was William Branham’s teaching on alcohol biblical?

Articles referred to on the podcast (click on the links):

Music – Uncloudy Day  by The Staple Singers, from the album – Top 50 Classics – The Very Best of the Staple Singers Early Years  – available on iTunes

Episode 14 – The 1963 Arizona Cloud with Pastor Jeff Jenkins (Part 2)

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Jeff Jenkins, pastor of Believers Christian Fellowship (BCF) in Lima, Ohio for almost 35 years, discusses the 1963 Arizona Cloud with host, Rod Bergen.

Some of the questions which they discuss include:

  • The Cause of the Cloud – Was it the aftermath of a constellation of angels visiting the earth or was there a natural explanation?
  • What are noctilucent clouds? – Why did no one see the cloud until sunset?
  • Only believe? – Does Bible tell us to simply have blind faith?

Articles referred to on the podcast (click on the links):

Music – The Unclouded Day  by Randy Travis, from the album – Worship & Faith  – available on iTunes

Episode 13 – The 1963 Arizona Cloud with Pastor Jeff Jenkins (Part 1)

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Jeff Jenkins, pastor of Believers Christian Fellowship (BCF) in Lima, Ohio for almost 35 years, discusses the 1963 Arizona Cloud with host, Rod Bergen.

Some of the questions which they discuss include:

  • The Prophecy of the Cloud – Did William Branham prophesy the cloud in advance of it appearing?
  • The Timing of the Cloud Why did the cloud appear 8 days before William Branham went hunting?
  • The Location of the Cloud – Why did the cloud show up 200 miles away from where William Branham was hunting?
  • Gene Norman’s testimony of the cloud – What did William Branham;s friend, Gene Norman, hear and see?
  • Chad Lamb’s sermon on the cloud – Does the cloud have anything to do with Exodus 19:16?
  • The Cause of the Cloud – Was it the aftermath of a constellation of angels visiting the earth or was there a natural explanation?

Articles referred to on the podcast (click on the links):

Music – I Can See Clearly Now  by Johnny Nash, from the album – The Best of Johnny Nash  – available on iTunes

Episode 5 – An Interview with Pastor Jeff Jenkins (part 2)

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Jeff Jenkins was the pastor of Believers Christian Fellowship (BCF) in Lima, Ohio for almost 34 years.  Pastor Jeff was a committed and fervent follower of William Branham but left the message and his church several years ago.  This is part 2 of Rod Bergen’s interview with Pastor Jeff as they discuss how he came to his monumental decision to leave the message and the church he had pastored for almost three and a half decades, as well as his current thoughts on William Branham and the message.

Music – I Have Decided to Follow Jesus by Bill & Gloria Gaither, from their album – Bill & Gloria Gaither and Their Homecoming Friends, Vol. 1 – available on iTunes