OTS 91 Charles Paisley 25 02 22

Narrator: [00:00:00] Welcome to episode number 91 of Off The Shelf.

Rod Bergen: My apologies to Reverend Jimmy Bratcher for the song, but I just couldn't resist. I owe our listeners a huge apology. I took on a project of writing a book about William Branham and the message. It was such a huge job that I had to drop this podcast to work on the book almost full time if I was to leave space for my other responsibilities.

The good news is that the book is now finished. You can find under the halo examining the legacy of William Branham on a number of online booksellers. To find the various retailers, please go to my website at rodbergen. ca I also owe an apology to Charles Paisley. In retrospect, I should have published the final episodes of my interview with Charles before I started the book, but [00:02:00] honestly, I didn't think it would take as long as it did.

Lesson learned. For those who have been waiting, this is part three of my interview with Charles Paisley. Charles was born into the message and grew up in faith assembly. Church in Clarksville, Indiana, where junior Jackson was the pastor. Charles is currently a minister at the gospel church of Jeffersonville, Indiana, where he is working with other former message believers to help people find community and support as they leave the message.

Currently, and we'll get into some more of these specifics, but you're part of the leadership of a church. That just started up in Clarksville, Indiana called the Gospel Church. What was your motivation for starting up a new church?

Charles Paisley: Yeah. So when I left the message one thing I came to define personally [00:03:00] was just the grief, the great sorrow, the great grief, and really the great fear of even trying to find another place to go and feel safe.

I wanted to. Put something together for people that are looking for just some community, some love, some fellowship on their way out of the message. Honestly, not even to stay with us forever, But you know, if they just want some community and some love and support while they're making a decision on what else to do in their life.

Yeah, I really, that was my heart's desire and there's two other former message ministers who have exited the message in this area. It roughly, you know, the past year as well who are working with me. And that, that's really my heart's desire is just to You know, when I left the message, it was you know, being shoved off the edge of the cliff is what I felt like.

And I feel like I barely survived the fall. It was, it was awful. I feel like I barely survived leaving the message. It was awful. Just, [00:04:00] I can't even describe how horrific it was. It's just the most painful thing I've ever experienced.

Rod Bergen: Well, it's, and it's on so many different levels because there's the spiritual level.

This is what I trusted in. This was what I thought. This would take me in the rapture and then you go to another level. It's your community So I mean I could count on one hand and it's not a full hand I had a couple of people came to see me one two People came to see me after I left the message now these people I had spent almost 40 years with They you know you read in Scripture about Leaving the 90 and nine and going after, well, if they were that concerned with my soul, and this is why you mentioned searching for vindication.

The people that started up and we've interviewed them, there's a podcast of people want to listen to them as they phoned me up and said, we're going to prove you wrong, Rod, because we're going after the [00:05:00] 90 and nine. We're going to go after you and your son. And they invested 400 hours. Because they were so concerned for me that they went to prove me wrong.

And in the end, they proved that I was right and they left the message. But that kind of love concern for a person's soul is not something you've seen the message because honestly, people, for the most part they're not interested. They're filled with fear because they think if they actually talked to me.

That evil spirit that I have is going to jump on them and then they might leave the message.

Charles Paisley: Yes. Yeah. For me, I don't know, if you experienced it at this level, but our sect had become so radical. You can't just walk out the back door. It, you have to endure. Months of constant harassment and threats, and [00:06:00] just everything you can imagine for months and months on end, and just non stop, and there's no way to make it stop.

Right? Even if you just, which I just be quiet, and close, I never said anything, never, I just went home and shut my door, and I tried to hope, you know, hope everyone would just, but they don't, they won't leave you alone. I mean, and it, it's really, it's really, you know, they weren't coming to try and, you know, convince me that I, you know, there was no concern for my soul.

It was they wanted me to die, Rod. And they would be glad for me to die the sooner. And that, it's awful. It's just awful.

Rod Bergen: Well, and in fact, Donnie Reagan has said this, all the people who've left the message and people like me You know, we, if we were in charge, we would put them to death. It's absolutely not the case.

I love the people in the message. I think they're wrong, but I never really experienced persecution for my faith until I left the message. [00:07:00] And that's sad to think that these people who say that they are the epitome of spirituality, they are the bride and the Christ. These are the people that can go in the rapture.

They have no love and what we're supposed to be known by Jesus said was because you have love one for another. And only that, if you don't love, you just let people love you, you don't get any gold stars. Right? You have to people, you have to love people that are your enemies, you have to love the people that don't like you, you have to love people that are outside the message and don't like the message.

Right? But they don't.

Charles Paisley: They, they have they have corrective love. Yeah. It's corrective. That is a

Rod Bergen: concept that they, yeah, it's just, it's an excuse for being mean and nasty because right? Yeah. I

Charles Paisley: know, I know. Oh no, no, I know.

Rod Bergen: But it's, it is, it is so true because there's a love is corrective.

Okay. So show me that. Show me that in the New Testament. I can't find it. Right?

Charles Paisley: Yeah corrective love is strangely missing from 1st Corinthians 13. How did Paul forget that when he [00:08:00] described love?

Rod Bergen: I want to get into some specifics And I will link on the podcast website off the shelf to your church website at ChristianGospelChurch.

org Which contains a number of tracts, detailing research that you or others in your church have done. And I'd like to talk about a few of them. One, we've already talked about and that's the cloud. And I've it's been interesting cause I've, I'm actually going to do another video on the cloud, because one of the things that always bothered me was the, about the cloud was that there actually were two clouds observed.

And nobody ever talks about that. The second cloud was reported off to the northwest of the main cloud. The shape was almost the same as the main cloud, but it was about a quarter of the size. And there actually is photographic evidence for the second cloud. And so it's really easy to confirm that, a rocket was launched from Vandenberg air force base on February the [00:09:00] 28th, 1963.

And it was self destructed because it went off course just before 2 PM. And one of the things that message followers have argued is that the winds were not quite fast enough to get any cloud created by the explosion from Vanderbilt. to Flagstaff by sunset of that day. But according to some recently declassified airforce course documents that shows that there was another rocket that was launched at 1.

02 AM the same morning as part of a mental, a missile interception test, and that rocket was destroyed by a smaller Nike Zeus missile. And to me, that seems to be the answer for the two clouds, because it says that They actually. They weren't, it missed the rocket by a bit, so people have a reason for two clouds.

Now, which, William Branham never talked about two clouds, I don't think he knew there were two clouds.[00:10:00]

Charles Paisley: Now the articles did mention that there were two clouds and for me it was always good enough where James MacDonald said the wind speed is tantalizingly close enough that this could be the same it the math works out, math worked out close enough and then you also have, you have the letter from Mr.

Aden, who actually was the engineer who launched the rocket, that, the rockets that day, and he said he recognized. That cloud as being produced by the rocket on the same day. So there was positive identification of the cloud from the launch engineer of the rocket itself. So it's it's pretty hard to argue that cloud was not made by the rocket when the man who was involved in launching it says, my rocket made that cloud.

So that kind of open and closes it for me. So

Rod Bergen: one of the things that people talk about is motivation and, and so it's very clear from all the research that anybody wants to do. Now William Branham was in Tucson on [00:11:00] February 28th, 1963, which is the day the cloud appeared. His daughter confirmed it.

Perry Green confirmed it. In fact, I don't know anybody in the message that's provided any evidence to the contrary. Most people admit now that he wasn't there under the cloud on February 28th. Why have you thought about why he would make up this story?

Charles Paisley: So, when it comes to his whereabouts that day, I, I'm a hundred percent sure he was not under that cloud, but there is conflicting accounts about where he was at. Um, you know, if you listen to Lee Vayle, Lee Vayle said he was in Texas. Well, he went to Texas on March the

Rod Bergen: 4th. But according to Rebecca he left on the 2nd.

Charles Paisley: But so, so you have that with Rebecca that he left on the second and he would, he was still in Tucson that day, but then there's also a record from George Smith [00:12:00] and also from Lee Vail saying he was actually in Texas on that day. So I go back and forth. I don't know if he was in Texas or if he was still in Tucson or traveling or, or just what, but whatever the case, he was not out hunting.

He was not out hunting that day. Right. There's no, and even where

Rod Bergen: he was hunting, I've been there. We've climbed up a sunset mountain. I didn't quite get the top. Some of the guys that were, we ran out of water. Some of the guys that are with me went to the top, but it's nowhere close to Flagstaff. It's a couple of hundred miles away.

Charles Paisley: Right. Right. And, and we can be totally sure he wasn't there because Jean Norman is, who was there with him actually tells us the dates they were there and it wasn't, wasn't a February. So why, you know, why did he do it? You know, there's. There's always this, I would love to know why, Rod, it would, I think it would give peace to my soul in a, in a, in a special way if I, if I really knew why, and, you know, all I can do is guess, right?

And my best guess [00:13:00] is, Rod, that he wanted to embellish the story around the seal's supernatural origin. That, that is my best guess. And then you go further deeper, well, why did he want to embellish it, right? Apparently, he thought it wasn't supernatural enough already.

Rod Bergen: Why do you think he intentionally misled the people to believe that he got his teaching right from God?

Because he, he said, he says, Oh, I was thinking this everybody's wrong. I read all this stuff and they're all I can't I can't agree with any of them And then the angel came and and now I got the truth and here it is He quotes Taze, Charles Taze Russell or Clarence Larkin

Charles Paisley: Yeah, it, it, you know, it's, it's incredible again, because, you know, he, he even says, uh, he, he's, you know, this, I think this is just about a direct quote.

Everything I ever believed on these was contrary to what [00:14:00] came to me in the room. Even everything I had read from other people. And that's just not true. Was different from every No, he was reading out of their books when he preached it and again, why? You know, if I, if I knew the answer to this, um, it would make me very happy person, Rod, if I knew why, if I really felt confident that I knew why, again, I, I think that he believed he was telling people something he thought was true, but he needed to put a supernatural spin on it.

In order to make his people accept it, you know, if you want my, he, he was in a place where he needed supernatural spins on things in order to make it sound better than it, than, no, than, than, than it actually was. Yeah, because the truth wasn't good enough. Yeah, if he gets up on the, right, he gets up on the platform and says, so I read Clarence Larkin, and I think he's got two good seals.

Hey, and I read Charles Taze Russell, the Jehovah [00:15:00] Witnesses, and I think he's got four good seals. So that, that don't go over very good with the kind of audience he has, right? And, and it sounds awful, right? So he's got to put a supernatural spin on his idea, uh, of what.

Rod Bergen: Well, and maybe it started out, you know, I mean, it starts out in one way.

He tells, maybe he tells a story like he tells the story of the, of the eagle in the chicken coop, right? Which he, he basically stole from Aretha Franklin's dad. C. L. Franklin.

Charles Paisley: Yeah. Yeah. And Thinking Man's Filter. You got that one that he stole from, uh, Billy Graham. But here's, here's the thing, Rod. And I have, I have William Branham's, if you have pictures of his library from Only Believe magazine, you'll see these shelves reproduced identically in that magazine.

I think I might even have a picture here. Why don't I show you? I have completely recreated William Branham's library. Like, take a look. [00:16:00]

A little bit lower, yeah.

Charles Paisley: Yeah, so, so, they, they, uh, I don't know if you can see some of my shelves, but I, these, all these books are here. Like, for example, this book is in that picture I just showed you.

He copied everything. He copied everything. And it's word for word.

Yeah,

Charles Paisley: and, and he copied, I mean, even the dual statements, even the stuff he thought was, we thought was mistakes, Rod. No, he copied, he even copied the mistakes out of people's books, right? Like, like, uh, like, like, like this book here says, uh, the woman of Revelation 12 is the church, right?

But this book says the woman of Revelation 12 is Israel, right? It just, and he preached in both ways. It just depended which book he had studied. Yeah, and it got into

Rod Bergen: trouble if you try to put everything together as he says, okay, the church goes up in Revelation was it chapter four? And then he's got.

Revelation [00:17:00] 10, seven. Well, now the, this angel, the seventh angel is speaking to the church, but if the church went up in revelation four, how does it come back in revelation 10? Right. And the reason he says it is because Larkin says in his book that the church goes up in revelation chapter four. So he basically, he copied it, including the mistakes.

You're right.

Charles Paisley: Right, right, right. Once you've read through these books and you grasp their systems of interpreting them, you'll understand The book of Revelation or the book of Daniel. You, you can, you can just see exactly how William Branham copied segments of it. And in the message, you, you know how you gotta, you gotta, you gotta jump around the scriptures.

Okay, you read these verses and then you jump over here and read these verses, and then you jump back here and read these verses, and then you jump over. So you, you do these gymnastics jumping through the Bible. Well, in none of these books do you have to do that. These are all, they all take a simple, [00:18:00] Straight approach, but when you mix and match them, because they're using different systems to progress through, right?

You end up with this, this is why you gotta jump around all over the place, because he merged incompatible systems. Um, uh, with the book of Revelation, with Christ, Clarence Larkin, everything is future tense in the book of Revelation. But in the Jehovah Witness system, it's everything is past tense, up to like chapter, right.

And the same with Uriah Smith, it's past tense up to a different point and forward. And so, and these other books that he had here are the exclusive brethren, the Plymouth Brethren's books. And the same thing, it's wherever he went and he came from. He took it, he took it with their tents and where, where you'd place it in time and you end up with this system where you gotta jump all over the place to make sense of everything and it, and it, uh, You know, I memorized the maze.

I know how to, I know how to find the way through the maze. I can link them all up Rod and that's how I think perhaps when I read [00:19:00] all these things my mind is just sick because then I can see so well yeah you studied it

Rod Bergen: out in detail I mean my for me I was not a message preacher as a song leader at the church and I had a extremely busy professional practice and so I trusted people That, okay.

They, I know if I had done something, if I was preaching this stuff, I would have done the research to, to know all this stuff. And, and, and when I started asking the questions, I really had a difficult time coming to grips that people had actually preached this stuff, but they hadn't done their research.

Right. Um, so there's a tract on your website. With an interesting title, did William Branham preach a single new thing? What did your research conclude on that?

Charles Paisley: So, [00:20:00] obviously, I have not searched, you know, every nth, you know, topic that he ever preached, but every one that I have looked into, I have found in these books.

There's one thing I've not been able to find, um, I have not been able to find his Luke 1730 idea anywhere, where, you know, as it, That the son of man, that had something to do with the end time. I've not been able to find that anywhere. Um, I would say though, it's probably somewhere and I just haven't found it yet.

Right, that would be, and I, I'm kind of to the point, I'm tired of reading, right? I've come to my conclusions, but, but everything else, I mean, The church ages, all, pretty well all, every stitch of his book of Revelation interpretations, every stitch of his book of Daniel interpretations, um, even, even, even bizarre illustrations that, that you thought were way out of left field, he even copied, you know, the bizarre illustrations from, from some of these books.

I mean, Serpent Seed, [00:21:00] you know, here's the Serpent Seed book where he got Serpent Seed. I mean, everything is in these books. So there's a,

Rod Bergen: there's a, a novel. by Russell, is it Russell Brand? Max Brand. There's a novel.

About the woman who was washing dishes and the owner of the ranch's son came in. That story is from a Max Brand novel, a cowboy, a Western novel. So it's, uh,

Charles Paisley: I think he mentioned he liked to read Westerns. Well, and that's right.

Rod Bergen: And I have no problem with telling a story like that. Yeah. But you know, normally you'd say, well, I got this from somewhere, right?

So right.

Charles Paisley: And there's not on that front, you know, there's nothing really wrong with studying the teaching of other men and sharing what you learn, right? Like we, we wouldn't object to that at all. But when you do that and then say, an angel came and actually told this to me and it's divine revelation from God.

Well, then, then I've got a problem. [00:22:00] That's a problem.

Rod Bergen: So you talked about Serpent Seed, where did, and you've got an article on your website on the Serpent Seed, where did William Branham get the Serpent Seed from? Oh

Charles Paisley: yeah. Oh my goodness, Rod. So this is the one that made me the sickest of all, Rod. Um, it's hard for me to talk about this one, Rod, just because it's so awful.

You know, there was a whole, there were secret teachings at Faith Assembly about Serpent Seed. Uh, so we had. You know, we had certain other aspects of the teaching maybe than, than perhaps was everywhere else.

Rod Bergen: So who gets, who got let into the secret teaching?

Charles Paisley: So I did. I was personally instructed by the pastor, and the pastor got the secret instruction, according to him, directly from William Branham.

So this came, you know, passed down, and there is a number of people there who are aware [00:23:00] of it. So, long story short, John, or Rod, I said John, I apologize, Rod, The, the, uh, William Branham. You know, was connected to some really bad white supremacist figures and there was a preacher out in California. His name was Wesley Swift.

He was a preacher at the Angelus Temple where William Branham preached. Yeah, quite frequently. Yeah. And he preached, he was a very prominent preacher back in Those days in the white supremacist community and he preached a doctrine of Serpent seed that was nearly identical to what William Branham preached from the 1930s and he had learned it himself in the 1920s from a man named Philip Monson and so William Branham somehow I [00:24:00] believe came into contact with Serpent seed through that man at the Angelus Temple Wesley Swift and That's where I believe Serpent Seed came from, from everything I have been able to tell.

Interesting,

Rod Bergen: because William Branham's first pastor was one of the leaders of the KKK, right? Right, that's correct. Roy Davis.

Charles Paisley: So, uh, uh, Roy Davis was the, you know, you can go read the newspaper articles out on, you know, they're out on some websites on the internet, the William Branham historical website has some, and I think you've got some on your website too, and I know I've got a few on, on the tract in my website.

Um, yeah, he was a founding member of the Ku Klux Klan in 1915. You know, according to himself, in the newspapers, he was an author of the Constitution of the Klan in 1921. Um, and he was [00:25:00] briefly, uh, the second highest ranking Klan official in the United States in the 1920s. And so this man is the one who baptized and ordained William Branham as a preacher.

Uh, according to William Branham's life story in the year 1931. And if you go on tape, I mean, William Branham, Oops. On tape talks about, um, meeting a man named George D. Arck, and George D. Arck teaching him some very racist things, and you can pull the newspaper articles up, George D. Arck was bobbed Elder or assistant pastor in Roy Davis's church, right?

It was Roy Davis's church where William Branham learned those very, uh, uh, racist teachings, which he said he didn't believe at the time.

Rod Bergen: So, so, uh, Serpent Seed has racist origins very clearly.

Charles Paisley: That's right. Um, the, the, if, if you trace back, I went back trying to figure out, you know, where, where did Serpent [00:26:00] Seed really get started at?

And there, there's a movement called the British Jewish Movement. And. Yeah, that started in the, the late 1700s, I think the 1790s. There was a man named Richard Brothers who actually was mentally insane who started this. He ended up committed to an institution and, and died there. But his teachings, you know, obviously continued on and the, the idea basically was at that time that the, the Anglo Saxon people were one of the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel.

Basically, that's it in a nutshell. And so it went along like that up until about the 1890s, so about 100 years later. And Serpent Seed is not in their teachings at that, at that point, but in the 1890s there's a preacher named Russell, Russell Carter, Church of God Holiness preacher, and he writes a book and has the idea that Eve had relations with God.

The serpent, or the devil, and [00:27:00] he produced all of the non Anglo Saxon races, or the non white races, and the white races had, the Anglo Saxons had descended from Adam, and so this is where it started, and it took on a racial overtone right there, and British Israelism, um, turned into really what today you could call Christian Identity Theology, if you want to look into it.

British, traditional British Israelism died out and Christian Identity Theology took over and is carried up into the modern, uh, the modern time. And the, the white supremacist groups took, um, that Christian Identity Theology, that serpent seed teaching that originated there, uh, with Russell Kelso Carter in 1890s, And it forms the basis of white supremacist theology and, um, you know, the way I found that out was how we're So there's three things that happened in a row, uh, you know, [00:28:00] I, I'm sure people could listen to this, Rod, and they're just going to think, well, you're just making this up.

You're out on a limb, right? Okay, I got this from the horse's mouth, okay? Um, so there's, there's three things that happened that, that, the first thing was in 2017, I watched a PBS documentary and, and it's Wesley Swift's successor, his name's Richard Butler. He moved the church to Idaho. After he died, and I'm watching this documentary, and it's linked on the website, and at a certain point, they start describing serpent seed in this documentary, and it's racist Rod, I mean, it is full blown racist, and I'm watching this thing, and I'm like, I am so angry, I'm like, oh my The KKK has stolen Serpent Seed from William Branham and they have turned it into racism and I was, I was angry, Rod.

I couldn't believe that they had stolen Serpent Seed from William Branham and turned it into racism, and [00:29:00] that's it. So I have this in my mind and then within six months there's a, there's a television news piece in the Canadian news. And my father in law is a message preacher in Canada and he, he sends me this Canadian news article and the byline is, uh, William Branham with links to the KKK, etc.

And I read this like, oh my goodness. William Branham was connected to the KKK and so I I start looking into what the news had said about that and sure enough this leads back to the Roy Davis connection. So I have these two things in my in my mind and I I go to our pastor and you know I I kind of gently I tell him about this news article and I you know I share with him that You know, that I don't think that this is true, and here's why I don't think it's true.

And I swear, Rod, if he didn't set me down and tell me I was [00:30:00] mistaken, it really is that way. And they really were what I, what we, I hope that they wasn't, Rod. So, I mean, and that it came straight from William Branham. This was, I was sat down and told that in, in direct explanation, um, to, to the, uh, discovery of this information.

And so, you know, I'm just sick to my stomach at that point. And, and suddenly I, my eyes are open to something I never saw before.

Rod Bergen: Yeah, it's, it's very troubling because, um, I know, I know William Branham said that if you were, if you were, that the Christians were segregationists and basically saying that if you weren't, if you didn't stand against integration, and this is racial integration in the U S back in the sixties, when all this was happening.

Uh, the march in Selma and all of this stuff that if you, uh, didn't believe in segregation, you weren't a Christian. [00:31:00] It's just Yeah.

Charles Paisley: I've read those quotes. It's astounding. And there's, there's some really terrible racial things that went on over the years that I, I really, until my pastor told me this to my face, I Somehow I was blind to it all, but as soon as he said it, it's like the blinders came off my eyes, and I'm like, oh my goodness, and I could suddenly see all of this that had somehow just been hidden for all of these years to me, and uh, yeah, it's pretty shocking, and fortunately, I have some of it on tape, which I put on the website, because I mean, it's almost unbelievable, um, Unless you hear it from the horse's mouth.

And I have it from the horse's mouth on my website. If, if the people from my sect of the message would like to hear it. And

Rod Bergen: I said, I'll, I'll put up all the links to your website. Uh, I mean, it's really interesting. Everyone has contributed to, to the research over the years. Um, I mean, some of the [00:32:00] people, some of the early people who started doing the research, get mad and say, well, no, I came up with this, I came up with this, but we all have contributed.

Like. So Roy Davis. Yeah. Uh, I'm sure you've read the article in healing, uh, the Voice of Healing Magazine. Uh,

Charles Paisley: I have, yeah. I, I, yeah. Here's an original copy. .

Rod Bergen: Yeah. Well I was the one who first found that article. I couldn't believe it.

Charles Paisley: Really? And I, I, yeah. See, I believed you faked the article, so I had to get an original Rod.

I didn't believe a single thing that you guys were putting out. So I

Rod Bergen: found this article and I couldn't believe it. I'm reading this about Roy Davis because the, the astounding thing about that article and the letter he wrote. Is it basically says that William Branham was a Pentecostal way earlier than He said he was on the tapes that I always listen to so and now by this time I was out of the message Uh, but we just flipped things over on the [00:33:00] website Peter Deiser was working on his book and I I phoned up Peter and I said, hey, I just found this article I emailed the article to Peter and he goes I knew there was something like this there had to be this is You And so he included it in his book, right?

And so everybody's kind of contributed to this stuff that we found. I mean, and, and that's one of the, uh, because in the end, I don't, I'm not looking for credit. I just want people to follow Christ. I, I do not care about credit. Um, and, and, and, and interesting, you mentioned 1933 and I, and I just touch on that.

Uh, the folks at Searching for Vindication are the ones who in their work to go through and, and, uh, prove, uh, the municipal bridge vision to be correct, which they failed, uh, they, they went through and they found, of course, Voice of God had said, well, [00:34:00] all the early newspaper, uh, copies of the newspaper from the, uh, From the twenties and the thirties had all been destroyed in the Ohio flood of 1937.

Of course, that wasn't true. And, uh, searching for vindication posted the newspaper report in the 1933 baptismal service. So you've done some work on that. And I think, um, I mean, you can tell specifically what you found out with respect to the 1933 baptismal service.

AI Narrator: Uh, That brings us to the end of part three of our interview with Charles Paisley.

We will be publishing the fourth and final part of the interview immediately. If you have any questions, please go to the offtheshelf. life website. There is space for comments and questions at the bottom of each episode. Or you can send an email to rod at off the shelf dot life. Please let us know if there are any issues or questions that you think we should address or someone [00:35:00] we should consider interviewing.

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