Episode 74 – Talks with Tim – Donny Reagan Gets Excited

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This is the first in a new series that we are going to be doing called Talks with Tim.  Tim Kraus, as our regular listeners know, is one of the co-hosts on Off The Shelf.  If you would like some background on Tim, please listen to episode 61 where we talk to Tim at length about his experiences with the message.

We get people who send us video links on occasion.  And some of them are, honestly, so disturbing, that we feel we need to respond to them.  This podcast is one such response. 

Related video link – Donny Reagan Gets Excited

The following is a transcript of the podcast:

Episode 73 – The 2020 Debate (Part 7)

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This is the conclusion of our discussion with message pastor Jesse Smith regarding the status of William Branham as a prophet.  Jax Cox and Tim Kraus act as moderators. The discussion focused around this agreed issue:

William Branham is considered by his followers to be a prophet and, specifically, the messenger to the church of Laodicea (the fulfillment of Rev 3:14), the Elijah prophet (fulfilling Malachi4:5-6) and the angel of Revelation 10:7. Was William Branham who his followers say he is?

This episode is comprised of the closing statements of both Jesse Smith and Rod Bergen.

The following is a transcript of part 7 of our discussion:

Episode 72 – The 2020 Debate (Part 6)

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This is part 6 of our discussion with message pastor Jesse Smith regarding the status of William Branham as a prophet.  Jax Cox and Tim Kraus act as moderators. In this portion of our discussion, we deal with:

  • If William Branham’s teaching is correct, why do message followers display so little love for those who leave?
  • Why is the fruit of the message so bad?
  • Did William Branham have any valid prophecies?  Three prophecies are specifically considered:
    • First, the immoral condition of the church;
    • Second, that no greater ministry to the Gentiles would rise than William Branham; and
    • Third, that no denomination would ever break up and come back to the word.

These questions all focused around the agreed question for discussion:

William Branham is considered by his followers to be a prophet and, specifically, the messenger to the church of Laodicea (the fulfillment of Rev 3:14), the Elijah prophet (fulfilling Malachi4:5-6) and the angel of Revelation 10:7. Was William Branham who his followers say he is?

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The following is a transcript of part 6 of our discussion:

Episode 71 – The 2020 Debate (Part 5)

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Episode 71 - The 2020 Debate (Part 5)
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This is part 5 of our discussion with message pastor Jesse Smith regarding the status of William Branham as a prophet.  Jax Cox and Tim Kraus act as moderators. Specifically, in this portion of our discussion, we deal with:

Specifically, in this portion of our discussion, we deal with the following:

  • If William Branham’s teaching is correct, why did God require Christians in earlier ages to believe false doctrine in order to be saved?
  • Are Trinitarians Christians?
  • Is there clear proof that William Branham lied habitually?
  • Why did William Branham fake that he spoke in tongues?

These questions all focused around the agreed question for discussion:

William Branham is considered by his followers to be a prophet and, specifically, the messenger to the church of Laodicea (the fulfillment of Rev 3:14), the Elijah prophet (fulfilling Malachi4:5-6) and the angel of Revelation 10:7. Was William Branham who his followers say he is?

The following is a transcript of part 5 of our discussion:

Episode 70 – The 2020 Debate (Part 4)

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Episode 70 - The 2020 Debate (Part 4)
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This is part 4 of our discussion with message pastor Jesse Smith regarding the status of William Branham as a prophet.  Jax Cox and Tim Kraus act as moderators. Specifically, in this portion of our discussion, we deal with:

Specifically, in this portion of our discussion, we deal with

  • Does the Holy Spirit lead a person into the message?
  • Was William Branham lying when he said that he was standing under the Cloud?
  • Does the doctrine of the Trinity teach that God has 3 minds?
  • Did any giants of the Christian faith not follow the doctrine of the Trinity?

These questions all focused around the agreed question for discussion:

William Branham is considered by his followers to be a prophet and, specifically, the messenger to the church of Laodicea (the fulfillment of Rev 3:14), the Elijah prophet (fulfilling Malachi4:5-6) and the angel of Revelation 10:7. Was William Branham who his followers say he is?

The following is a transcript of part 4 of our discussion:

Episode 69 – The 2020 Debate (Part 3)

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Episode 69 - The 2020 Debate (Part 3)
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This is part 3 of our discussion with message pastor Jesse Smith regarding the status of William Branham as a prophet.  Specifically, in this portion of our discussion, we deal with:

  • How do we respond to WMB’s failed visions given the clear requirements of Deuteronomy 18:20 to 22?
  • How is this affected by cognitive bias?
  • Is the baptism of the Holy Spirit a separate work of grace, like salvation?
  • Do you have to accept the message of William Branham to be born again?
  • If WMB was the messenger to the church of Laodicea, the Elijah prophet and the angel of revelation 10:7, how could he be so lacking in credibility?

These questions all focused around the agreed question for discussion:

William Branham is considered by his followers to be a prophet and, specifically, the messenger to the church of Laodicea (the fulfillment of Rev 3:14), the Elijah prophet (fulfilling Malachi4:5-6) and the angel of Revelation 10:7. Was William Branham who his followers say he is?

The following is a transcript of part 3 of our discussion:

Episode 68 – The 2020 Debate (Part 2)

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Episode 68 - The 2020 Debate (Part 2)
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This is part 2 of our discussion with message pastor Jesse Smith regarding the status of William Branham as a prophet.  Specifically, in this portion of our discussion, we deal with the King James Version Only-ism, women wearing pants and whether it is OK to condemn people who are not Christians. Jay Cox and Tim Kraus are the moderators of our discussion.

The agreed question for discussion:

William Branham is considered by his followers to be a prophet and, specifically, the messenger to the church of Laodicea (the fulfillment of Rev 3:14), the Elijah prophet (fulfilling Malachi4:5-6) and the angel of Revelation 10:7. Was William Branham who his followers say he is?

MusicThe Disease of Conceit by Bob Dylan from the album, “Oh Mercy” (1989) – Available on Apple Music

Episode 67 – The 2020 Debate (Part 1)

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On September 12, 2020, the first-ever English language debate was held between a message pastor (Jesse Smith of Akron, OH) and an ex-message Christian (Rod Bergen from the Off The Shelf podcast and the BelieveTheSign website). The discussion was moderated by C. Jay Cox and Tim Kraus.

The agreed question for discussion:

William Branham is considered by his followers to be a prophet and, specifically, the messenger to the church of Laodicea (the fulfillment of Rev 3:14), the Elijah prophet (fulfilling Malachi4:5-6) and the angel of Revelation 10:7. Was William Branham who his followers say he is?

In Part 1, Jay Cox and Tim Kraus introduce the participants followed by the opening statements of Pastor Jesse Smith and Rod Bergen.

MusicWar in my Mind by Beth Hart – Available on Apple Music

Episode 63 – Introducing Your New Co-Hosts (Part 3)

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Episode 63 - Introducing Your New Co-Hosts (Part 3)
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This episode concludes the discussion with our new co-hosts. Rod Bergen talks to Emily Arndt and Tim Kraus about a number of important issues relating to the message.

External links – Article on Pastor Vinworth Dayal from Trinidad

MusicGod Still Loves Me by Andrae Crouch – Available on Apple Music

Episode 62 – Introducing your new co-hosts (Part 2)

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This episode continues the introduction of our new co-hosts. Rod Bergen talks to Emily Arndt and Tim Kraus about a number of important issues relating to the message.

MusicThe Storm Still Rages by Rhonda Vincent – Available on Apple Music